
Q&A WITH SUPERSTARS OF DARTS FORUM MEMBERS
Introduction :
Sid Waddell has been there, seen it, done it and got the T-shirt when it comes to Darts. His career in the sport began in the early 1970's with the Indoor League show which featured the first 'Superstars of Darts' alongside masters of shove ha'penny, skittles and other noble pastimes. I remember being fascinated by the show watching it on the multiple screens in my Dad's electrical shop while serving customers their dose of Ever Ready batteries or a 13 amp plug. Little did we know that Waddell's series was capturing a soon to be departing era from our culture. The various bar games, Freddie Trueman, smoking in public - all these fine things have all but disappeared from today's world. Except for Darts that is. Thanks to the bravery of 16 of the best known arrowsmiths in the early 1990s our beloved sport is now experiencing popularity in the 21st century which looks like eclipsing even it's Golden Age of the early 1980s.
Moving from the Indoor League to a commentator with the BBC, Sid has been involved with Darts right the way through its highs, lows, splits and ultimate resurrection into a big money sport.
Thanks to Sid for agreeing to be questioned by our pernickety forum members!
Sid's new autobiography, 'The Road Back Home' about his early years is out now from EBury Press.
From Andy Fairclough : Your new book about your formative years is written in a style that very much entertains and also gives an almost fictional feel to things. This is particularly evident in the first chapter where you recount events in the family prior to your birth. This method definitely keeps things moving along, so how much of a conscious decision was there in this style and approach to the prose and how long did the book take you to write?
Sid Waddell: The book took about five years, but I cut out my career at Cambridge and my years in the telly. My editor said the first 18 years were the most interesting. My early drafts were too focused on the ego, exploits and my personal activities and so I adopted a ‘novelistic’, approach, to paint a broader picture of a mining community.
I had read Bill Cullen’s story of hard times in Dublin ‘A Long Way From Penny Apples’ and was impressed by the third-person account of his parents’ life before his birth. I used the same technique for my parents from 1922 to 1940.
Generally I write dialogue fast and pretty well, and struggle with prose. But doing up to six drafts helped the ‘euphony’ (writing like you speak) of my sometimes jagged prose.
From Cmoorbutz : How did you think that Renford Rejects compared to your creation of Jossy's Giants?
Sid Waddell: I never saw the show. But I admit I did swipe some ideas for Jossy from the brilliant ‘Bad New Bears’ movie with Walter Matthau as the boozy baseball coach.
From Mr Glass : Hi Sid. As a fellow member of the Red Sox Nation, my question is... What is your single most memorable Red Sox moment to date.? (p.s. Mine is the ALCS comeback win against the Yankees in 04)
Sid Waddell: No argument. To be three down and win 4-3 against the damn Yankees was brill. I have been a Sox fan since 1980 when first went to Fenway and boozy fans taught my daughters ‘Take Me Out To the Ballgame’ and offered buckets of Bud to 8-year-old son Dan. He accepted!
Definition of an uncurable optimist? Bloke who supports Red Sox and the Toon.
From bing76 : Have you ever thought of commentating on Cricket ?
Sid Waddell: Not a chance. I would get lynched at Lords and heaved headlong out of Headingley.
Darts commentary is a different beast to cricket, tennis or footy. In almost all sports the drama comes in the form of CONTRAST: defence scrambles to keep out rampant Messi, or limping Smith tries to batter controlled England bowling. In darts the high drama comes when two blokes do a monotone repetitive series of 140, 180, etc. That’s when you need all your armoury of wit, stats, enthusiasm, growling admiration. My asthmatic whoopy voice seems to fit, even though some folk would like to strangle me. Also, the best advice I ever got was from my early mentor at the Beeb, Nick Hunter:’Don’t state the OBVIOUS.’ You are there to augment the picture, not give it frills.
From Chinaboatman : As well as sports commentary you have been involved in a number of other fields throughout your career such as television production, literature and screen writing. Is there a non sports related dream project that you would love to be involved in one day?
Sid Waddell: I had so much fun writing the historical third-person bit of ‘The Road Back Home’ that I might try a Catherine Cookson series of novels starting in 1900 and coming to present day about a fictional mining family in Geordieland. As usual, I’ve got a few titles and no pages. ‘Sometime Scholar’ would be 1959-62 when a swotty big head went to Cambridge, all flat cap and attitude, but choked with inverted snobbery.
From Rudy, Holland : Hello Sid, you're one of the early hours' vintage darts reporters together with Tony and John. If you look back at 30 years of pro darts, how do you think modern day darts and its players compare to those of the early eighties, organization, media, skill and charisma wise?
Sid Waddell: The game is now 100% professionally organised and played by 99.9% of players with a pro attitude. Some tiny few still come along for a throw and a few beers with their pals.
With five million quid in the kitty worldwide you can have a good career if you have the dedication. The Sky coverage, just like in rugby and cricket, takes you to the heart of the action and the skill. The glitzy presentation highlights the showmen like Mardle and Manley. We are in showbiz despite what some anoraks might think.
That having been said, the booze did add a charm and frisson in the days of Alan Evans and Jocky Wilson. They were heroes straight from the tap-room; Evans in a tatty red jersey giving Denis Law salutes, and Jocky having a swally and taking his false teeth out in triumph. These two did not need lights or rock music to come over the lens writ large.
From Darth Vader : Sid, The split in 1993 still remains one of darts biggest talking points. What do you think (if anything) could/should have been done from preventing the split in the first place, and what in your opinion needs to happen to get both sides working together in future?
Sid Waddell: As you can read in my book ‘Bellies and Bullseyes’, the split that started in 1993 and peaked after legal action in 1997 was inevitable.
The BDO under Olly Croft were running world darts like a feudal fiefdom. Then democracy entered – just like in tennis and athletics – and 17 top players demanded a voice for player power. Led by Lowe, Harrington and other players and supported by darts manufacturers the WDC (later PDC) was born. They have never looked back. Sadly, the BDO’s attempt to force a change in the players’ attitude by imposing a world-wide ban – in effect damaging their livelihood - left a poisonous bitter legacy. The scars are deep and will never heal.
From GrayIsALegend : Do you still play darts yourself and what is your current approximate 3 dart average?
Sid Waddell: When I played for St John’s College at Cambridge in 1959-62 I was deadly at Double 13 to start and Double 8 to finish. This helped Brissy and me win the Fleet St Pairs in 1981. Sadly things have deteriorated sharpish. A couple of year’s back Helen Chamberlain scored 300 against my 93 in three minutes on telly. So my average was about 24 each time to the board!!!
From Spaceman70 : Sid, it tickles me every time I see the match at the Circus Tavern (I think) where Phil overhears your exuberant commentary whilst going for a 9 darter. Have there been any other incidents where you have been asked to turn it down a bit?
Sid Waddell: The match was in fact at Rochester and was the final of the World Grand Prix in October 1998 against Rod Harrington.. Taylor was going for Treble 17 and Bull to win £25000 and heard me scream ‘TREBLE SEVENTEEN!!!’ He hit the treble but missed the Bull by a whisker.
I have been yelled at, threatened with violence and jeered since my first outing on BBC Grandstand in November 1977. I was sitting on a balcony at Preston with no sound-proofing and going nuts about a Geordie 7-man team. Suddenly a Toony voice yelled ‘If that **** up there does not shut up I’m coming up to clock him!’
Happily, with 10,000 equally loud loonies at Premier Leagues even my wildest banshee wails are swallowed up.
From Dug : Sid, who do you think looks the most exciting prospect in the darts world at the moment?
Sid Waddell: There are signs that Adie Lewis is shaking off his caterpillar skin and learning to fly without a net. He had a recent 9-dart and is top of the Champs League prize money with over £11,000 even though he’s not won a group final. He is a commentator’s dream; big, daft and bouncy. Once the gamesmanship and the rushes of blood stop, he could be World Champ..
From SoulRebel1980 : Sid-What are your views on the future of darts on TV, both BDO and PDC?
Sid Waddell: They’ll be doing things in sepia at Bridlington and Frimley Green while we at Sky will be bringing you Technicolor rock ‘n roll from Dublin, Las Vegas and the flamboyant Ally Pally. No contest.
From OzzieB : Alright Sid- What would be your dream match to commentate on?
Sid Waddell: I would love to see Gary Anderson get consistency to match his talent. My dream would be to do the patter on a Taylor/Anderson world final at Ally Pally. Reference points: oatcakes versus mealie puddings, English poinards against skean dhus, King Lear against the Pale Faced Pretender. Writhe in yer grave Roget my son.
From Pete (Muppeteer) If you could list your top 10 players in the world today would you pick any BDO players? I
Sid Waddell: No. Martin Adams and Tony O’Shea might creep into bottom of my Top 30
From matty84 : What is your opinion on Martin Adams decision to turn down his invitation to play in the Grand Slam Of Darts?
Sid Waddell: I think being ‘Triton amongst the minnows’ (Big Fish, Small Pool) and the BDO’s only attraction is the top of his ambition. He would not upset Muswell Hill at any price. He’s not got the killer instinct to match the PDC top lads.
From Hotspur : Excluding yourself who do you rate as the best darts commentator and pundit at the moment, and do you think that Sky have the right balance in their Darts shows? I sometimes think that a lot more could be done to highlight and build up players other than Taylor and Barney, and that Bristow's thoughts are the most entertaining of them all (although they are rationed!)
Sid Waddell: Tough one to call. Dave Lanning is my favourite for timing a line and using language. John Gwynne is as manic as me and a whiz with the stats. I think Rod Harrington is a great pundit and a good commentator. Brissy gives great pungent insights like Boycs does on cricket – no pussyfooting.
On Sky we concentrate on Barney and Taylor because their rivalry has dominated our coverage since Ray came over in 2006. Maybe we could do more features on Wade, King etc, but we do colour them up on commentary.
From Nobilo : Will there be any more bellies and bullseyes programmes?
Sid Waddell: None planned at the moment. But repeats will go on till Doomsday!
From Spanish Dartplayer : Hi Sid, just one Question : Would you ever believe anything Tab Hunter told you?
Sid Waddell: I never met Tab Hunter, golden-haired movie idol of slushy celluloid, but if you mean the wide boy window cleaner from Cramlington, ex-star of Northumberland County Darts….yes, and he’s a cramper. I would not believe a dickybird of Tab’s patter. But I’ve enjoyed his company, paid my turn often in Geordie juicers AND his. He’s the kind of gadgie that could limbo dance underneath a swing door.
From Mark (Markveg) : Hi Sid, Rod Harrington recently said that he would propose for the PDC to create their own county system. What are you thoughts on this and does darts need it? (Editor's Comment - Harrington alluded in a recent interview that if the PDC and BDO couldn't find a way to work together he may put forward to the PDC board that they should start their own County or similar system)
Sid Waddell: I reckon the BDO county system is moribund because there is nowt to aim at. The days of an England shirt being the top ambition in darts are over. It would be nice to see a PDC county set-up, but good talent is coming through fast now. It is not essential.
From JAWS : Hi Sid, I am a geordie myself and have to say, you are up their with the geordie greats! Anyway, Lets say in 5-10 years time Phil Taylor has retired from darts...which 5 players could you see at the top of the PDC, and why?
Sid Waddell: James Wade because of his class and self-confidence. Adrian Lewis who is getting less daft each tourney. Paul Nicholson, the Ozzie Geordie who oozes Attitude. Jelle Klaasen who is getting experience fast. Finally, 19 year old Joe Cullen of Bradford, fast with the cracks and a good competitor.
From Chris (ways): Hi Sid, Throughout all your times in darts, which players would you say have been the best to sit and have a pint with?
Sid Waddell: Cliff Lazarenko was great pinter and yarner as my battered liver will vouch. So is Bob Anderson and we had a great late natter at the Premier League in Taunton last Spring. Dennis Priestley and the Mexborough Mafia are great company but once had a boozy ‘Spot the Luigi’ competition in a Frimley Italian caff that could have ended dodgily. But the waiters had a sense of humour.
From TroubleAgain : If you could pick an all time 8 player Premier league night, who would you pick, and also what venue would like you it to be played (past or present)?
Sid Waddell: My line-up is: Alan Evans, Jocky Wilson, Bob Anderson, Eric Bristow, Adrian Lewis, Phil Taylor, James Wade, Ray van Barneveld. All have the flash of arrogance to go with the darting talent. I would like it played at Jollees in Stoke and I’d commentate with a half (back) mullet and a shirt with a collar down to my nipples.
From Colin (mod500) : Sid, what has been the greatest darts match you have commentated on?
Sid Waddell: I have no doubt that the best match was the 2004 PDC World Championship final. Kevin Painter went 4-1 up in sets against The Power. Phil was yelling that he was going to quit ‘cos the pressure was too much. But Eddie Cox, the Geordie drinks’ marshall said ‘Aahi divvent hear ney fat lassies singin’, kidda.’ Phil calmed down and won 7-6 and RETIRED…for all of four days. It was so good I don’t recall a single Sidism!